Mormon Tea

topic posted Wed, May 28, 2008 - 10:32 AM by  Jonatron
In the high desert of southern California there is an over abundance of Ephedra growing everywhere. Since I got a sinus infection from a visiting friend. I figured 'Why take sudoephedra when there is an abundance of ephedra for free?'
I looked up and concocted a brew of "Mormon Tea"...
Wow it does what it's supposed to! Surprisingly it tastes good too. It's stimulant properties surpassed my experience with coffee. It totally cleared my sinuses and kept me focussed while I was drinking it.
Evidently you can make an energy drink if you combine with Guarana, Caffeine, Yerba Mate, Green Tea, and Cola Nut. This home brew sounds way better than commercially produced energy drinks. Especially since you don't have to use sugar to sweeten your drink. Plus you can choose your own proportions. I know that this isn't hallucinogenic, but finding and concocting is invigorating to the inner shaman!
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    Re: Mormon Tea

    Wed, May 28, 2008 - 10:45 AM
    Guarana has a very High Caffeine level... Do not add more Caffeine that is silly... Stick to the straight herbs you listed... Yerba Maté mostly contains TheoPhyline and TheoBromine... Kola (with a K not a C) Nut also as Caffeine... Yerba Maté IS AN ENERGY DRINK... it is all you need.. 15 Amino Acids, 23 vitamins and minerals.. Everything you need to live except protein and Calcium... So if you add Soy Milk... you got that covered too... If you are Green Tea/Black Tea or Coffee drinker and switch to Maté you will get hella buzzed.... for some time too... but with out the jitters or nervous tension... Do to that Theophyline and Theobromine content. Theobormine is also what is in Chocolate... Any way... your energy drink recipe would taste like shit and be horrible for you... Too much, Too much...

    Yerba Maté, Guarana, Gingko Biloba, Goto Kola (not Kola Nut, but still Kola is with a K...unless you are talking about the Soda Drink)... That is an energy Drink there that will rock your world... Use raw Cane or Honey... White sugar slows the body down... and is not usable energy...
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      Wed, May 28, 2008 - 11:44 AM

      I make a tea from a big part yerba mate, and three smaller parts of ginko biloba, st john's worth and yohimbe. Added some anice and peppermint. Hot water, drink it, repeat the hot water and drinking till all flavour has softened. That really gets my system going an many different levels. Too bad yohimbe has been illegalised in Holland now. With it I felt my blood really flowing.

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        Wed, May 28, 2008 - 2:11 PM
        OH YEA... that sounds like some tasty tea... Aphrodisiac too... Yohimbe is one of few Legal Psychedelics in the US... you can get a prescription for it if you have Impotence... but It is legal to extract it and sell on the street if you want... Lots of Porn Shops carry it...

        That and the Gingko are VasioDialators, great for blood flow to all parts of your body... Particularly the Brain...

        Also Try Goto Kola... and Damiana...
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    Re: Mormon Tea

    Wed, May 28, 2008 - 4:08 PM
    I know that this isn't hallucinogenic, but finding and concocting is invigorating to the inner shaman!

    SO True... I love brewing My Teas... And Have turned some of that to my Beer/Wine/Mead Brewing...

    But, Some of my Brews are Hallucinogenic... =p
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      Wed, May 28, 2008 - 4:51 PM
      I appreciate the feedback, and recipes. Thanks!
      Normally I have no interest in Ephedra, but my sinuses have been driving me nuts.
      I also feel the lag from this funk I got.
      Just wanted to see what was up with it on a subjective since I've already took ephedrine in the past for the same thing.
      The plant is better because it isn't as potent as pills... In my opinion of course.

      Re: Have turned some of that to my Beer/Wine/Mead Brewing...
      On a side note. Have you ever tried to distill? I'm interested in making fuel. Ethanol can be made from any organic matter, but it's not all potable. It will burn and push my engine though.
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        Wed, May 28, 2008 - 5:01 PM
        Well you have to apply to the state to get licensed... But it is very simple... basically you have two containers linked with a hose or pipe... one is the collector... the other the boiler... you boil the alcohol at low temps and evaporate the alcohol and leave the water and other material in the first container... alcohol evaporates at a lower temp than the water...

        Also... another way... is called jacking...

        Reverse principle as above... Alcohol Freezing and Lower Temp than Water... so after brewing a strong brew... like 25% using high gravity or champaign yeast... you then freeze the container until all the water turns to ice.. leaving the alcohol....

        Mormon Tea is fine... Extracted Ephedra can be bad...

        Maté, and má huáng(ephedra/mormon tea) alone would be very stimulating... Throw in some Gingko and Gotu Kola... That would be great... the Gotu Kola would help with the jitters and nervous problems with the ephedra...
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          Wed, May 28, 2008 - 6:59 PM
          I never heard about jacking. Pretty cool. No pun intended
          Thanks for the tip about Gotu Kola. It sounds like it is pretty healthy from what I just read.
          Gingko is an easy one for me to acquire freely.
          I'll try that.
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            Wed, May 28, 2008 - 9:14 PM
            Ephedra will turn a temporary sinus problem into a permanent one. If you have an infection or an alergin and you dry it onto your sinuses then you will have a MUCH bigger problem. The body is not stupid for making mucus.
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            Re: Mormon Tea

            Thu, May 29, 2008 - 2:56 PM
            Yeah... is an Olde Time Method... Make up some Spiked Apple Cider and set it out all night during the freezing months of the winter... and have the Original ... can you guess... Apple Jack.... Funny stuff...
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              Thu, May 29, 2008 - 9:30 PM
              I was already thinking about using those freezing months.
              I was thinking about using solar heat to distill in the summer too.
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                Fri, May 30, 2008 - 3:38 PM
                oh that is recommended... saves so much energy and money that way...
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              Thu, July 2, 2009 - 2:33 PM
              ....."Apple Jack.... Funny stuff.."
              I have done that with my Meads! Have a Barley Wine ready to bottle and will do the freeze distill on part of that too.
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    Mon, June 2, 2008 - 11:20 PM
    I have a link to a source for mormon tea concentrate but I don't know if I can put it up. Some people don't like links to commercial sites so I guess let me know if yall want a link.
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    Sun, June 8, 2008 - 4:24 PM
    wow, this is cool and interesting. I never heard of Mormon tea before. That's funny that it's called Mormon tea.
    As for me, I can't stand ephedra, caffeine, or many things that are stimulants
    but i am glad the mormons were good to you on this one!


    now you just need like 10 wives and you'll be set!
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    Mon, July 14, 2008 - 11:49 PM
    The ephedra that grows in Nevada and Utah is Ephedra Nevadensis... 0 ephedrine, but some interesting isomers of ephedrine nonetheless. Stick with Sinica or Distachya for ephedrine content. This is not to say that nevadensis (Mormon Tea) is not beneficial medicinally, because its wonderful for energy and allergies... simply no ephedrine =(
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    Tue, July 15, 2008 - 5:46 AM
    I used to make a tea from "horsetail" harvested from the margins of Lake Travis in Texas when I lived in Austin in 1976. It was always claimed to be a source of epehdrine. The tea was definitely stimulating. My roomate at the time was on a law school intramural basketball team and asked me to make a gallon of my "red stuff" for some big game the team was trying to get up for. The team guzzled the stuff throughout the game and thought it helped them endure physically. I had 15 minutes of fame as the creator of the "red stuff." Knowing what we know now about the hazards of ephedrine in initiating heart attacks and what else - kidney failure or something - when overdosed, it seems advisable to proceed carefully with tea made from the ephedras.
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    Tue, June 30, 2009 - 9:35 PM
    Does anyone know if you can extract the active alkaloids using isopropyl alcohol?
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      Thu, July 2, 2009 - 2:22 PM
      Dont combine Yohimbe with Ephedra. That is a recipe for disaster (hypertension/ cerebrovascular crisis).

      I usually prefer whole herbs, but when it comes to Yohimbe, just stick with the isolated Yohimbine and not the whole plant. There is a crazy mixture of MAOI type chemicals and stimulants and depressants in there, and its a real witches brew just by itself. Its not the safest plant for getting high on.

      I use to love my stimulants but now I cant handle them. If you want a good legal psychedelic try San Pedro. Its virtually non toxic, and if you prepare it right (break the cell wall, dont overheat the first extraction, second and third rounds of extraction at high heat) it really works.

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        Thu, July 2, 2009 - 2:36 PM
        "If you want a good legal psychedelic try San Pedro. "...
        It has Mescaline like alkaloids if I'm not mistaken.
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          Fri, July 3, 2009 - 5:48 AM
          Yes, Mescaline.

          I used to drink ephedra sinensis tea back in the 70's. Steep the twigs, a lovely red infusion. Nice buzz, not too hyper, and good for opening the sinuses with colds and such.
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      Fri, July 3, 2009 - 11:18 AM
      "Does anyone know if you can extract the active alkaloids using isopropyl alcohol? "

      Never use Isopropyl for Extraction. Pure Ethyl works great or if you have to use Chemistry Grade (Scientific Grade) Methanol. Even EverClear would be Better than Isopropyl...

      Can you extract with it? Sure... But it would be nasty and very carcinogenic even after evaporation... On that note, don't use DeNatured Methanol... De-Natured means they add toxins to it to make it unusable for extraction. Really the BEST and Cheapest is 100% Pure Grain Ethanol... Go to you liqueur store and as the nice man if he has 100% Pure Ethanol for cleaning Lab Equipment, or tell em you are an Herbalist and need it for Extracts... Either Way he should have some, they don't put it on the counter to sell to general public. Don't Drink it either... You will regret it most likely. LOL
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    Tue, July 21, 2009 - 6:24 PM
    Though it may be irrelevant to your brew itself, I think it's an interesting note that Mormon's are against drinking tea in general. I come from a Mormon family and my father still eyeballs me strangely when I sip on some AMP black tea with lemon.