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Mexico decriminalizes small-scale drug possession
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MEXICO CITY — Mexico decriminalized small amounts of marijuana, cocaine and heroin on Friday — a move that prosecutors say makes sense even in the midst of the government's grueling battle against drug traffickers.
Prosecutors said the new law sets clear limits that keep Mexico's corruption-prone police from extorting casual users and offers addicts free treatment to keep growing domestic drug use in check.
"This is not legalization, this is regulating the issue and giving citizens greater legal certainty," said Bernardo Espino del Castillo of the attorney general's office.
The new law sets out maximum "personal use" amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities no longer face criminal prosecution.
Espino del Castillo says, in practice, small users almost never did face charges anyway. Under the previous law, the possession of any amount of drugs was punishable by stiff jail sentences, but there was leeway for addicts caught with smaller amounts.
"We couldn't charge somebody who was in possession of a dose of a drug, there was no way ... because the person would claim they were an addict," he said.
Despite the provisions, police sometimes hauled in suspects and demanded bribes, threatening long jail sentences if people did not pay.
"The bad thing was that it was left up to the discretion of the detective, and it could open the door to corruption or extortion," Espino del Castillo said.
Anyone caught with drug amounts under the new personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment, and for those caught a third time treatment is mandatory.
The maximum amount of marijuana for "personal use" under the new law is 5 grams — the equivalent of about four joints. The limit is a half gram for cocaine, the equivalent of about 4 "lines." For other drugs, the limits are 50 milligrams of heroin, 40 milligrams for methamphetamine and 0.015 milligrams for LSD.
Mexico has emphasized the need to differentiate drug addicts and casual users from the violent traffickers whose turf battles have contributed to the deaths of more than 11,000 people since President Felipe Calderon took office in late 2006.
But one expert saw potential for conflict under the new law.
Javier Oliva, a political scientist at Mexico's National Autonomous University, said the new law posed "a serious contradiction" for the Calderon administration.
"If they decriminalize drugs it could lead the army, which has been given the task of combating this, to say 'What are we doing'?" he said.
Officials said the legal changes could help the government focus more on big-time traffickers.
Espino del Castillo said since Calderon took office, there have been over 15,000 police searches related to small-scale drug dealing or possession, with 95,000 people detained — but only 12 to 15 percent of whom were ever charged with anything.
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MEXICO CITY — Mexico decriminalized small amounts of marijuana, cocaine and heroin on Friday — a move that prosecutors say makes sense even in the midst of the government's grueling battle against drug traffickers.
Prosecutors said the new law sets clear limits that keep Mexico's corruption-prone police from extorting casual users and offers addicts free treatment to keep growing domestic drug use in check.
"This is not legalization, this is regulating the issue and giving citizens greater legal certainty," said Bernardo Espino del Castillo of the attorney general's office.
The new law sets out maximum "personal use" amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities no longer face criminal prosecution.
Espino del Castillo says, in practice, small users almost never did face charges anyway. Under the previous law, the possession of any amount of drugs was punishable by stiff jail sentences, but there was leeway for addicts caught with smaller amounts.
"We couldn't charge somebody who was in possession of a dose of a drug, there was no way ... because the person would claim they were an addict," he said.
Despite the provisions, police sometimes hauled in suspects and demanded bribes, threatening long jail sentences if people did not pay.
"The bad thing was that it was left up to the discretion of the detective, and it could open the door to corruption or extortion," Espino del Castillo said.
Anyone caught with drug amounts under the new personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment, and for those caught a third time treatment is mandatory.
The maximum amount of marijuana for "personal use" under the new law is 5 grams — the equivalent of about four joints. The limit is a half gram for cocaine, the equivalent of about 4 "lines." For other drugs, the limits are 50 milligrams of heroin, 40 milligrams for methamphetamine and 0.015 milligrams for LSD.
Mexico has emphasized the need to differentiate drug addicts and casual users from the violent traffickers whose turf battles have contributed to the deaths of more than 11,000 people since President Felipe Calderon took office in late 2006.
But one expert saw potential for conflict under the new law.
Javier Oliva, a political scientist at Mexico's National Autonomous University, said the new law posed "a serious contradiction" for the Calderon administration.
"If they decriminalize drugs it could lead the army, which has been given the task of combating this, to say 'What are we doing'?" he said.
Officials said the legal changes could help the government focus more on big-time traffickers.
Espino del Castillo said since Calderon took office, there have been over 15,000 police searches related to small-scale drug dealing or possession, with 95,000 people detained — but only 12 to 15 percent of whom were ever charged with anything.
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Sun, August 23, 2009 - 10:43 AMNice. -
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Sun, August 23, 2009 - 11:03 AMIf the calculator I found is correct then 0.015 milligrams = only 15 micrograms. which is only a fraction of one dose.
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Sun, August 23, 2009 - 11:26 AMIn Mexico the cops will probably be the ones selling the shit.
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Sun, August 23, 2009 - 12:35 PMI looked at that and realized Yeah, that's not even 1/100 a doze for me! WTF!!! -
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Sun, August 23, 2009 - 4:37 PMSo you are saying that you normally dose yourself with over 1.5 mg? Yeah, I used to dose myself like that...in high school. Let me know when you get bored with staring at fractal patterns for 12 hours. -
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Tue, August 25, 2009 - 2:46 AM150mic would just hurt' you would need five at least to "Bounce"
Gonna be a lot of "Drunk" folks on minimal acid' hahaha
1500mic' I would no doubt pass out !! besides become eveything all at once' full loss of volition' dissolved into the light matrix'
1200 mic turned me into an Eagle flying over the festival for 13 hours' when I eventualy came down' I had to fly about and look for my body'
I found it laying in a field of wheat' I was 18 at the time' met spirit straight in the face' there was no channeling the energies as they rippe wide open' feathers exploded out of my shins an my arms' "Bang' "Bounce" I was instantly out of body' unable to return' no even a chance for a thought of regret at lossing everything all at once'
Sunshine :)))
Bliss
Nobu +
Ok' so "MEXICAN SHROOMS" n' a tiny 150mic' you could "Wield" on that .:) hehehe
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Tue, August 25, 2009 - 11:52 PM"Normal" dose in the right circles is about 500mics. One doesn't touch me. I need 3 of those to make it worth doing. I don't trip often, but when I do I prefer to partake of a "where no-one has gone before type journey"! OTOH, a normal dose of mushrooms for me is about 5gm dried. -
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Sun, September 13, 2009 - 6:40 AMLSD...been a long time, but from memory, anything over 300mcg is the full experience. All you get from higher doses is a faster onset. Not that that couldn't be nice. :-)
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Tue, August 25, 2009 - 3:45 PMGrande Mexico! Bravo!
Viva La Mexico!
Who cares if someone has Coca leaves, or Poppies, or is hurting them selves with extracted and refined versions too strong for themselves.. If they have only a little, they are likely not selling it.
I would love it if we had some regulation, so I could get organic Blueberry!
Or lab grown mushrooms etc.
I am hoping since our allies are doing this, so will we!?
Obama's brother got busted with weed in Kenya, and Obama should have taken that moment to speak out against those laws...
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Sun, September 13, 2009 - 7:19 PMI am confused about the amount of LSD allowed for personal use---is what they are allowing a normal dose or way smaller? -
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Mon, September 14, 2009 - 6:22 AMway smaller -
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Mon, September 14, 2009 - 8:01 AMso the LSD part of the allowance is basically pointless. they need to do a little work on that! (but it sounds like they are at least making an attempt to be reasonable and allow people freedom to change their consciousness, which is great).
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 5:27 AMSo I'm guessing they're allowing it to be used as a nootropic in a similar way as Ergoloid, but not in high enough doses to produce a full blown experience?
It's a start, I guess...
Portugal still has the by far the best policy I know of.
All drugs intended for personal use are decriminalised under their laws.
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Re: Mexico decriminalized LSD for personal use.
Fri, September 18, 2009 - 10:26 PMWhat is this nootropic and Ergoloid you speak of?
and Portugal, eh? I am glad at least someone has their hat on straight.
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