This past weekend, I spent some time with my friend Ethan (not his real name), and we were tripping on L and we watched Waking Life
which
by the way
is an excellent, excellent movie to watch in any state of consciousness
i highly recommend it
if you haven't seen it
go see it!!!
but anyway
one of the things it speaks about in the movie is lucid dreaming,
that is
when you are aware that you are dreaming
and then you control your dream
and one of the other things it talks about in the movie
is that your brain does not know the difference between a dream
and not a dream
most of the time...
unless you are able to gain that awareness that you are in a dream
and then that's called lucid dreaming right
so then
I started thinking
I have been able to lucid dream
once I know I am in a dream, I can call things into being
and then I thought
well
if that works in a dream state
maybe it would work in awake state
but people don't really try it,
i don't think
or if they do
we call them
what?
sorcerors?
or conjurers?
or summoners?
or crazy?
i don't know
I have read The Secret
and I have done research on the Law of Attraction
it sort of seem like lucid dreaming while awake
and I remember I asked my friend Ethan about it
and he scoffed at it
he said
that's ridiculous
nobody can call things into being
and I told him this story
of how
one time
after a party, I was in my friend's van and I said
damn i wish I had some pot
and my friend said
oh yeah, there's a bong under the sink, I think it's packed
and there it was
and then I said
I'm real thirsty. Man, I could go for an orange crush right now
and my friend said
haha, that's hilarious! we have that too. It's in the fridge behind the curtain
and then I said
WOW
I wish that some beautiful men would appear right now
and in about two minutes
indeed two beautiful men knocked on the van door
and wanted to know if they could smoke with us
and when I told my friend that story
he said
that's nothing but coincidence
but it didn't feel like it to me
it felt like a lucid dream
except I was awake
anyway
I guess I was wondering what people's thoughts were on this....
and incidentally
it was a slightly unfortunate exchange between me and my friend
because it made me feel like he was so negative
or like we weren't on the same page
not a cool feeling really ever
but especially when you're tripping
but as my top advisor once told me
everyone starts from somewhere different and comes to conclusions based on their individual experience
we're all in the same boat
but it's a big boat and people feel more comfortable in different areas of the boat
..............................
which
by the way
is an excellent, excellent movie to watch in any state of consciousness
i highly recommend it
if you haven't seen it
go see it!!!
but anyway
one of the things it speaks about in the movie is lucid dreaming,
that is
when you are aware that you are dreaming
and then you control your dream
and one of the other things it talks about in the movie
is that your brain does not know the difference between a dream
and not a dream
most of the time...
unless you are able to gain that awareness that you are in a dream
and then that's called lucid dreaming right
so then
I started thinking
I have been able to lucid dream
once I know I am in a dream, I can call things into being
and then I thought
well
if that works in a dream state
maybe it would work in awake state
but people don't really try it,
i don't think
or if they do
we call them
what?
sorcerors?
or conjurers?
or summoners?
or crazy?
i don't know
I have read The Secret
and I have done research on the Law of Attraction
it sort of seem like lucid dreaming while awake
and I remember I asked my friend Ethan about it
and he scoffed at it
he said
that's ridiculous
nobody can call things into being
and I told him this story
of how
one time
after a party, I was in my friend's van and I said
damn i wish I had some pot
and my friend said
oh yeah, there's a bong under the sink, I think it's packed
and there it was
and then I said
I'm real thirsty. Man, I could go for an orange crush right now
and my friend said
haha, that's hilarious! we have that too. It's in the fridge behind the curtain
and then I said
WOW
I wish that some beautiful men would appear right now
and in about two minutes
indeed two beautiful men knocked on the van door
and wanted to know if they could smoke with us
and when I told my friend that story
he said
that's nothing but coincidence
but it didn't feel like it to me
it felt like a lucid dream
except I was awake
anyway
I guess I was wondering what people's thoughts were on this....
and incidentally
it was a slightly unfortunate exchange between me and my friend
because it made me feel like he was so negative
or like we weren't on the same page
not a cool feeling really ever
but especially when you're tripping
but as my top advisor once told me
everyone starts from somewhere different and comes to conclusions based on their individual experience
we're all in the same boat
but it's a big boat and people feel more comfortable in different areas of the boat
..............................
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Tue, April 15, 2008 - 11:00 AMyes indeed! it's called manifestation. and i believe as the world moves closer toward... toward.... well, as time speeds up, as the gravitational field reduces and as the poles begin to shift... you know, all this earth changing stuff that we're experiencing right now... well, i think we're going to experience more manifestations, and things will manifest much more quickly than ever as well. i've experienced this in my life, as have numerous of my friends.
i don't believe in coincidences; i believe in synchronicities. -
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Tue, April 15, 2008 - 12:16 PMand when you experienced it
what exactly happened?
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 6:42 PMI think coincidences, syncrhonicities and manifestations all happen fairly frequently, and seem pretty much impossible to separate or distinguish from one another...and that a mind biased by rational, linear thought will be more apt to see them all as "coincidences" while a mind biased by spiritual though will be more likely to see them as one of the other two.
Or, maybe we're in the matrix, and you're just learning to be more like Neo, and that's why reality is behaving more like a lucid dream. ;) -
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 7:01 PMI wish I had a ferrari and a castle in tuscany and a cute tantric nurse... :) -
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Fri, April 18, 2008 - 6:54 AMorpheus, you're such a dreamer - i admire that quality in you. I'd settle for just the tantric nurse
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 11:57 AM2012 is when the earth is set to change positions. -
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 12:49 PMchange positions, eh?
close enough.
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 10:37 AMone time, I said to my friend as we splashed in the beautiful clear waters of Wrightsville beach "I wish I had some goggles.."
and I spotted something flashing underwater.. I grabbed it.. "goggles!!!"
I put them on... started swimming: another pair! Another! ANOTHER! and another... these are prescription!
He says: "damn dude, wish for some hot chicks next!"
needless to say, we got some, cause we were sportin 2 pairs of goggles each...
Another time I felt I was having deja vu..
I said to myself, if deja vu is as I think it is, a feeling you get when you are seeing in the future.... then.... a woman in pink is going to walk in and sit in that last seat...
I watched as a door to the stage opened, and out filed 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, boys in suites... and finally a girl in a pink dress...
She was last, and proceeded to sit in that last seat!
No lie!
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Fri, April 18, 2008 - 8:12 AMMy dreams have just about every day (with a few exceptions) grown to be more and more intense and seem to be more pleasing and fulfilling in the sense that I can unconsciously guide my dreams. It's almost as if in my dream world I am coexisting in two states of consciousness and both aware and unaware of my predicament at the same time allowing me a level of control and a level of just experience the dream sequence.
As towards the waking life experiences and manifestations... I find that if my heart is truly in it I get what I need. "Can't always get what you want... but if you try some times you just might find... you get what you need." There are plenty of shallow things I wish to have at times... winning lotto tickets, cars, nice house, electronics to play with... and I've been able to manifest some of them in one way or another for myself but when it comes to things of real need like love and friendship I find that if you set your heart on it the world will all fall in place for you and take you where you need to be. The thing I find is that I must let the things I want to manifest fall into my unconscious mind and rest there and try not to force them with conscious thought as that just creates struggle against the flow of the universe.
anyway.. thats my 2 cents... time to wake up and take a shower -
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Fri, April 18, 2008 - 8:57 AMa thread a couple months ago talked about an excercise to develop the ability to take conscious control in dreams. I haven't had much success with it but I haven't given up on it, either. I think this has great potential both for dreaming and for entheogenic states.
You pick a spot outdoors that feels like a place of power to you. (i suppose it could be indoors - maybe at a personal alter in your house and maybe even simply your favorite chair in the living room?) But you spend some time in this physical place meditating and centering and just really trying to connect with this physical place emotionally/spiritually. Then you take a small object from this place and focus on the object then you place the object near your head when you go to sleep and again focus on the object before going to sleep while thinking about your intentions to return in a dream state to the physical origin of the object.
While I have had no success, anyone who already has lucid dreams might be a far better position for success in this. I think it could possible be a spiritual excercise that might build up one's ability to act with intention while in altered states of reality. Love to know if anyone has experimented with this kind of thing or if you do in the future how it goes? -
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Fri, April 18, 2008 - 3:05 PMNovel things happen when you are in those higher states. Synchronicity, some call it.
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Sat, April 19, 2008 - 1:17 AMI lucid dream frequently - several times per week. Performing reality checks while awake, and maintaining a dream journal, increased both my dream recall and frequency (and understanding) of LD's. Many thanks for posting this title; the film description looks great. I just ordered the DVD from Amazon for $4.99. The IMDb page with more info about this film is at us.imdb.com/title/tt0243017/
The film director is Richard Linklater, who also directed Dazed and Confused - and he has some more work which looks interesting as well (his films are listed on IMDb).
Thanks again for posting, Sky.
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 11:56 AMI once had a dream and when I woke I realized it was just a dream until I woke up again to realize the dream of me waking up from a dream was a dream.
I often thought about this to. If when we sleep we dream what happens during our day must be a dream for us when our dream selves are sleep.
to answer the question I had many times where things like that would occur.. But Im still young with no real training or direction so I there's been times when the people around me took advantage of what I was able to do while I kinda watched cause it still amazes me. -
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Re: Lucid Dreaming in Waking Life
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 1:54 PMI liked "Waking Life" and its predecessor, of which it is largely a roto redux, "Slacker." If you haven't seen it, do: us.imdb.com/title/tt0102943/
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