Visions (Please share with me)

topic posted Sat, May 3, 2008 - 7:14 PM by  offlineLindsey
I want to know what you see when you get high, when your psylocin kicks in or your dmt peaks. I'm curious as to what your brains perceive, because I imagine they're much different from mine.

In trade I will share a recent exploration with my friend Dimitri :

I took a good few drags off of my pipe, the smoke was pretty thick. At the tail end of re-lighting it and finishing the dose i had put in there, the pipe began to look alien or foreign to me and i didnt feel any air coming into my mouth even though I knew I was inhaling. Lighting it was confusing almost like my body was doing it on purpose. But I figured out what i was doing anyway and finished my last drag...

I put the pipe down on my now very brilliantly purple felted box and turned back to facing my bedroom from a corner on my bed, and felt like something had put its hand or finger under my chin as to lift my head and say "Pay Attention." I lifted my head and I closed my eyes after seeing the roof of my bedroom come off and parts of my room fly out and be replaced with other doll furniture and doll toys. I had a white lace umbrella near me (open) in a papasan directly to the left of me, and it appeared to spin and get brighter with each heart beat.

My eyes now closed my mind went into the same type of organization I had gone through two times before with this kind of dose. It's as if my mind organizes my thoughts in visual form for me, arrows, patterns cutting off slices of my vision to be set aside for one specific item at a time, each section different. Arrows criss crossing around and little bridges of color flying around, creating new pathways. I can't remember the specifics of the items that appeared, but they were like little icons. Flat 1 dimensional icons - like of an elephant would just be a solid elephant icon in blue, or blue with spots in the shape of an elephant.

Without control, of course, my mind would select an image and then zoom in to it, creating a whole new group of images and bridges in front of me.

Sometimes I follow the pathways, sometimes i select items to look at (seemingly through curiosity.. i dont know if there's reason behind which items i look at just yet..). It's always very delightful, lots of colors and different things to keep me very entertained and busy..

When I OPEN my eyes, things are very cartoony and cut off into specific shapes. Like if I had a tooth brush laying on the ground or something, it wouldn't be 3d it would most likely pop out, looking like a paper representation of the same item with a glow around it..

When the visuals fade off I usually lay and think for a little while, giving myself a cool down period kind of thing.

The things DMT shows me are beautiful and bright, entertaining and perfect. Beautiful colors and items that I love. Like my own personal little toy box in my brain that I only get to play with when I visit Dimitri. I felt very much like a little doll after this vision, i made sure my roof was closed before I laid down to think this time... hehe


Do you have any fond memories from visions past that you would like to share? I would love to hear them in any way that you can try to explain. I am curious =)
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    Sat, May 3, 2008 - 7:22 PM
    you
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      Sun, May 4, 2008 - 6:45 AM
      recently (and finally!!!) got some Salvia.... Not that Sativa isn't a psychedelic... It, is however (other than an old old dried out (do you all think L would last on a tab in a car, in a cd sleeve for years and not lose it's kick?) the only entheogen I have have had till Salvia...
      I read on the Salvia tribe about being unzipped, and rolling back into your body... And finally experienced this... The whole body felt gone, and then as I came back, covered in sweat, the backs of my legs and spine felt like they had zippers on them, and were starting to seal back up.
      And these are just the physical feelings... Not the visions.
      The first hit on 10x gave me the view that I was an eye in a field of 2D eyes, looking up at this towering gold inferno being....
      The 2nd (I bought 10, and 50... just to compare) on 50 was too strong, and I felt like I was being taken away in a lunatic wagon... The feeling of a crowd of voices, of a paranoid me fearing minds around... I have come to the conclusion also, after the 3rd trip, to never smoke Salvia in a grave yard... (*old charleston graves.... ancient oaks... too much for this lil' baby mind...).
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    Sat, May 3, 2008 - 9:02 PM
    i love hearing about other peoples experiences most of all. I wonder when you say that others will probably not have the same visions - this does seem to be the case and this would lead, I would think, to the conclusion that the visions arise from our personal subconscious rather than a collective unconscious; or, as I tend to think, from some kind of link (?) to a non human, indepedent intelligence. But I wonder if the visions (and psychedelic experience in general) could not be related in some thematic manner even if not being exactly the same? Analogous to the way languages are the same in grammer while different in vocabularies? I wonder if anyone has done research on this aspect? For instance, from what I have heard from others, there are common themes of spirituality, oneness with all things, an acceptance of ones self as well as others, an experience of ego death and euphoria - I'm sure I'm missing something? But clearly as wildly and creatively different as these experiences are, there are commonalities as well.
    But I think it's a great idea to focus on the actual visions - a picture does say a thousand words! I hope a lot of people share on this one!
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    Sat, May 3, 2008 - 9:13 PM
    LSD visions - no singular, no plural?
    my first LSD experience at the age of maybe 15 or 16 was a little silly but contained an interesting visual aspect of LSD, I think. I saw a cartoon of The Flintstones playing with all the characters interacting in full and vivid colors. The cartoon took on the shape of a diamond and began to spin and then the diamond, still containing the cartoon of the Flintstones, began to break up into multiple diamonds and each separate diamond was "playing" the Flintstone cartoon as each diamond continued to spin. Then these diamonds broke down into more and smaller diamonds, etcetera, until my vision was of millions of spinning diamond shapes each with a separate carton of the Flintstones "playing" within the diamond shape. But here's the weird thing - I could see each and every one of the millions of diamonds, each playing a separate cartoon, at once - I watch each and every diamond at once, something normally impossible?
    Another time I noticed this when I was tripping on LSD with some friends and we were walking along a red brick building and I noticed something odd about the bricks. Wait, I asked my friends, look at that brick wall, somethings not right? Then I realized what was "wrong" - I could look at all of the bricks within my field of vision at once, just like the cartoons. I could also focus on just one if I tried but otherwise I saw each individual brick, thousands, at once. My friends could "see" it too when I pointed it out.
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    Sat, May 3, 2008 - 9:22 PM
    Walls breathing - I think that is a pretty common one? I had that I think pretty much every time that I dropped acid.
    Geometric patterns seem to be very common and of course vision trails.
    On numerous occasions with LSD also I "saw" my blood corpuscles coursing through my veins - reminded me of that movie where people shrink down and go inside someone's veins and arteries in little microscopic ship
    With LSD also I experienced sound, especially music, as visions, usually kind of as lights that pulsed and changed colors in accordance with the music.
    Also, LSD in general was far more visual for me than mushrooms - in terms of closed eye visuals, that is.
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    Sat, May 3, 2008 - 9:45 PM
    Two most important LSD visions, both life changing for me:
    One was not exactly a vision but was visual. I noticed something odd about a leaf on a tree next to where I was sitting out in the mountains when tripping and I stared at the leaf for what seemed like forever just thinking so hard that I was missing something important in what I was looking at that it made my head hurt - I couldn't take my eyes off of that leaf! Then I noticed the blue veins in the back of my own hand near this leaf and I looked at the veins in my hand and then back to the leaf - to the veins in the leaf - and my head exploded with this realization that everything is one - everything really is one! The veins in my hand were like the veins in the leaf, and I thought, like rivers coursing through the face of the planet. This was a real turning point in my young life for sure!

    The other was a vision. I withdrew from our campsite into my tent nearby, again out in the wilderness, and it was just turning dusk and pretty dark in the tent. I felt kind of ill and needed to just lie down and be quiet. Suddenly I saw a woman walking toward me and it was so real that it kind of startled me there in the dark. As the woman got closer she began to raise her hand as if to shake hands with me. I noticed that she was dressed in black from head to toe. Also, she was wearing black gloves and big black sunglasses as well as a black scarf such that I could not see one bit of this woman's flesh - she was completely covered and not only did I notice this but it made me feel very uncomfortable - almost afraid. Just as the woman got to where I could reach out and take her hand, I realized that this was my mother. The hair stood up on the back of my neck and my relationship with my mother, who had abandoned me often as a child but loved me, I knew, as best that she could, became clear to me. As much as she wanted to reach out to me, she could not - there was a subtle but profound disconnect between us. This single vision just nailed the incredibly complex disfunction of our relationship in way that years of psychotherapy had failed. I felt no anger toward her but an deep understanding and appreciate for what she was, or was not, realizing that none of us is perfect, but feeling also a deep and abiding sadness - a sad acceptance.
    Thank you Albert Hoffman, you made my life better - awesome, great, great man, a true hero in my book!
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      Sat, May 3, 2008 - 11:57 PM
      I distinctly recall walking out into the park very late at night / early morning. Sitting on the park bench and seeing the road flow like a river in front of me. The bench felt as though it was placed there distinctly for me, for that moment, so that I might sit there and have the vision of. . .

      a little boy playing the park behind me with a little red inflated ball. He kicked it in my direction and it rolled over and hit my foot. When I picked it up, I imagined as though I had aged some 50 years and was handing the ball back to my childhood self.

      And there I sat on the bench, having felt this vision wash over me . . . and all was right with the universe.
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        Sun, May 4, 2008 - 3:26 AM
        I remember munching down some Hawaiian copelandia shrooms in Holland, and shortly after was visited by what can only be described as a miniature Barney the Dinosaur. And this was with eyes open..! It only appeared in my peripheral vision though. If it turned to look at it directly it was eclipsed by a bright bluey white light and then dissipated into the surroundings. I remember it echoing my words in a high pitched version of my own voice, like an annoying child that repeats everything you say. After everyone had gotten into the flow of things and felt confident enough to go into the outside world, we decided to go for a boat ride down the canals (probably not the wisest thing to do whilst tripping). The light as it reflected off the water looked like millions of sparks bouncing off and dancing on the waters surface. Almost identical in colour and look to the sparks that fly when someone’s welding. I don’t know if anyone’s been to Amsterdam before, but there are parts where trees line the canals and form a very light arch, beautiful even when sober, but while tripping looked liked they’d warped and bent inwards which was breathtakingly beautiful. =)

        Another time, on LSD, the shadows of tree branches seem to creep up on me, stretching across the grass as if they wanted to grab hold of my ankles. Ceilings often move in time with the music when I’m on Lucy too. I’ll also get a static TV effect now and then. Like hundreds of tiny dots in my visual field. I actually went completely blind once from just weed! Has anyone else had that??? Everything faded away to the point where all I could see was pink static lol. I had to prop my self up against a garage door. The odd thing was even though I couldn’t see for shit, I still managed to hold the bucket perfectly still while my friend pulled the smoke into the bottle. Now I look back on It, I think it was more a case of being so stoned that I didn’t realise I was seeing even though I was… :S

        Anyway, moving on, closed eye visuals are where the real fun (and sometimes terror) begins. And so far nothing has come close to what Ketamine can produce (although I’ve not taken DMT…yet). I can always tell when I’m about to depart on K. It goes from a light feeling of disconnection, as if I’m watching a movie instead of actually being in my surroundings, to a sudden feeling of being pulled to the ground. By this point, if I’m not already lying down, I will, and close my eyes. I then completely detach, falling at a rapid speed. On one such trip I saw thousands of squares within squares forming an endless tunnel. Just like when you point a webcam at the screen, only rotating making a diamond shape is it does. No real colourful patterns like I get with shrooms, just what seemed like a huge space of black nothingness contained within these squares. As it started to slow down, white and fluorescent green zigzag patterns moved in from the sides of the squares until they formed an image. Instead of patterns that form into one or two images before morphing into the next like I get with shrooms, they formed into a whole scene. As if I’d arrived at a place. Whereas shrooms the images are manifestations of what I’m thinking, on K, it just felt as if I was watching them, not thinking them. In fact it didn’t feel like I was thinking at all. It’s really hard to describe in a logical way. :S
        Anyway, I’d arrived in a dense forest with trees in lines that seemed to go up into the sky forever. The foliage was a fluorescent green colour like the zigzags before, as well as the plants on the floor. Everything was pretty much green expect a small clearing in the middle which was black and empty. I was aware of people standing around what was my brain, no body, just a brain. I didn’t actually see them, but knew they were there. It was at that point that I started to freak out. I was worried what they were going to do to my brain. And then I started worrying about where the rest of my body was and if I’d ever return to it. I was pretty much convinced I was dead at that point and it terrified me. This seemed to slowly bring me back to reality, and although I still felt very numb, I was aware of my body again enough to open my eyes. I could see the room, but at the same time I was still in the forest. Both realties seem to overlap each other and Sam’s voice (person with me at the time) was the gateway between them. Nothing he was saying made any sense and I felt pretty confused. It was like when you go “aaaaaaaaaa” and put your hand over your mouth, on and off. Very choppy and distorted. To this day it remains one of the most hardcore trips I’ve ever had. I’d also been smoking weed and took 125mg of MDMA powder and hour before, so that no doubt influenced the trip.
        It actually took me quite awhile before I had the balls to go above little bumps of K after that. Mostly because of a mild feeling of still being slightly disconnected from myself for the 5 days that followed. Things didn’t seem as real to me as they did before. Depersonalisation is the technical term I think. That wasn’t too pleasant at the time, but ultimately worth it in the end.

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    Sun, May 4, 2008 - 7:50 AM
    I've posted this once before in my "beautiful little nature grown..." thread, but its relevant in here also and is a fun one, so I figured I'd transplant it here also. :)

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    "So... I had another experience with 2 grams of the same mushrooms as previously spoken about, and 2 grams of tinier mushrooms from a new picking (but from the same person).

    Good god. 4 grams and I was absolutely marveled. Just.. wow. Shadow looking people were poking in every once in a while and making sure I was ok, straightening my shirt out and fixing my hair. My surroundings morphed into different rooms every once in a while but they contained the same items (people, light toys, decks + tables for music). I was a hippy for a while, with long brown hair and a paisley long sleeved shirt on (which I was wearing a sleevless shirt during). And during the hippy phase I had a profound respect for mary jane."

    (adding something here) I morphed into different phases of myself seemingly from different decades or something... every so often. I morphed from the hippy to a more cleaned up version of myself and still hanging out with the same group of friends, still smoking mary jane.(done adding)

    "I looked out the windows above me and saw the trees moving in the sunlight. Beautiful leaves!! Gorgeous little diamonds everywhere. Hehe..

    I wasn't anywhere NEAR being as touchy feely as last time. I was VERY MUCH seeing things that weren't there though. Which is what I wanted. :] I dont know what those shadow people were... but it was just like... a black stamp of a person without all the details in it. It could have been my friends around me or something but they said it wasn't them. hehe.

    I had a fiber optic lamp next to me that I liked a LOT... mm. :] hehe.. so fun!"


    Thank you all for sharing, I have a lot of fun imagining these things =) They are all turning out to be just like I thought, all different but still containing some of the same basic things like diamonds and breathing walls (of course) etc..

    Please, share more! :)
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      Sun, May 4, 2008 - 11:34 AM
      ...being tansformed into the most beautiful objects. I had to egt past the fear of letting go of my body, and letting go into the trip. I realized we are not what we think we are. Moslty we idetify with our human bodies, but we are in fact, so much more. We can always go back to the body, but we can go beyond, if we want to into a land of beauty, alien beauty, yet familiar, some how. Like waking from a dream, into being fully conscious, all neurons firing, all senses tuned to the nth level of acuity. Perfect. :)
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    Sun, May 4, 2008 - 11:04 PM
    Dude that replied above, yeah I've gone blind on mushrooms before at a Disco Biscuits showed. So I walked around bumping into people saying, "I'm blind! I'm blind." LOL

    Crazy hallucination I've ever had was during a 14 day fast while it was snowing outside this tree uprooted itself and started dancing in the middle of the road, then I felt my dissolve as if my physical body is only a creation of my mind. Does that make sense to anyone else?

    Most peaceful thing I've ever seen while meditating was a sheep's face in the clouds that just happened to be me. Weird stuff. This was also a common theme next time I tripped mushrooms I saw myself in everything; the clouds, the trees, every single person, etc. Easy to see when you realize our true essence is in fact pure love.

    Sadly six months after this wonderful hallucination I was institutionalized by my mother who appeared to me as the Queen of all Fairies. So ever since then I've been trying to overcome "schizoaffective bipolar disorder."

    I do still see wizards and fairies in the clouds and trees all the time on or off of medication, but I only hear voices off the medication or when I'm high or at a Perpetual Groove show or Lotus show.
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    Mon, May 5, 2008 - 8:34 PM
    Nice descriptions, I like the spirit of psychedelic investigation and communication...I know this is a post about visions, but just wondering,
    how do you feel when all this is happening?

    My visions: I think my most notable vision was on my highest dose of mushrooms ever, probably the largest single dose of any psychedelic
    I've ever taken, and it was 5 large mushrooms, one of which was particularly large 7" (the biggest and first one to grow) and the others were
    pretty big too. So after the terror of the oncoming onslaught subsided, after the infantile regression to a pure undifferentiated rage/orgasmic energy for 2 hours straight, after the grid of tremendous energetic ripples, came a more soothing period...in which a glowing green technological orb appeared like an 8 ball pyramid out of the inky, murky darkness. What is it? I wondered out loud in my head curiously to no
    one in particular...it's a personality generator, the mushroom voice replied, as if I should have known, or as if it was unsure as to whether it
    should tell me or not. It then registered to my awareness that that was the voice of the mushroom speaking back to me. And I didn't think
    too much of it at the time (so much weirdness had been going on) but it was like an info readout on the inside of the terminators eyeball
    in green led lights almost. It was like a synthesizer almost, it did look like an orb, and it was purely technological. So, from what I've
    speculated, it is a technology that forms or creates our personalities, in the way a synthesizer forms electronic waveforms.

    I saw it casually again during an ayahuasca thc session, only it appeared as a polygraphy machine, with beautiful rippling inklines and
    metal pens flowing over thick rolodisks of data paper. This dreamlike imagery presentations seemed to convey the concept...this is true,
    we're telling the truth about this.
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      Tue, May 6, 2008 - 11:40 AM
      On mushrooms my entire body feels fantastic and buzzy, very good feelings all over.

      On DMT I feel nothing but love and acceptance, and self love.

      on LSD I usually get curious and confused. But each trip is so different that I can't really narrow them all down to 1 feeling.

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