Sacha Runa Collective offers two Month-long Shamanic Intensive Training Courses a year
(Jan/Feb and August) in the Bolivian Andes& Amazon (www.sacharuna.com).
The course is indeed Intensive and deeply transformational.
It is intended to help train those people who trully want to entrust themselves to Spirit
and dedicate themselves to Service.
No prerequisite is necessary, except the absolute determination to face oneself
and do what is needed to allow spirit to flow through us and bless creation.
The next one is August1-30.
Have to fly in and out of la Paz, Bolivia.
Application letters are due ASAP.
The next course is Jan/Feb 2009

For serious apprentices who intend to become full fledged shamans and
conduct medicine ceremonies, at least 4 courses are recommended but it
ultimately dependes on everybody's skills.

For a description of the course, please visit www.sacharuna.com
Blessings:
Miguel A. Kavlin
posted by:
Miguel
Bolivia
  • info- esp for women

    Sun, July 27, 2008 - 12:02 PM
    check out this posting by Bhudevi
    Re: Has anyone worked with Don Miguel Kavlin? This is a response to the original question. Miguel was recently in ceremony for 3 ceremonies in NC. He lied down with 2 women (separate ceremonies) after the ceremony, but while the women were still strongly affected by the medicine. I was one of those women, and while his affection helped to settle me down and work through a difficult time, I couldn't help but think that it felt strange. I could sense that if I was open to it the situation could turn sexual, and that was interesting to consider, since the altered state was just that, altered, and because I was with the Shaman, and that made me feel special. But if I had ventured that way, the next day would have been a mess, a nightmare, and would have changed my life in a negative way forever. I trusted the Shaman I had gotten to know over 4 intense days, and I needed him to comfort me, not to come on to me. Miguel left here and traveled to Oregon and Washington, knowing that he had stirred things up here, but went ahead and seduced a woman there while she was on the medicine. She was completely willing but I personally think that this is a strong mis-use of power, and no matter how consensual the other person is, the Shaman is supposed to hold the safe space, right? Consensual sex while on any medicine seems to be a contradiction to me, especially when it is the Shaman that is involved. As I have worked through this I am greatly saddened. I loved working with Miguel, we had 3 ceremonies together. I loved his music, and I admired him as a Shaman, and a man, until the last night when I was struggling and he suggested we lie down together, and I trusted him. Now I know from reading others information that use words like "womanizer" and "trantric shaman" that he is not the man that I thought I was working with. This will not bother some people, and others might decide not to work w/ him, I just think it is important to let people have all the information. Blessings
    • Re: info- esp for women

      Sun, July 27, 2008 - 12:54 PM
      jeez this guy is going to get the ladies nights booked up for years ahead and double his rates with this kind of PR...
      • Re: info- esp for women

        Sun, July 27, 2008 - 2:04 PM
        ya, he's doing crazy PR, posting on tons of tribes. gotta warn the women about him. I don't know tribe's policy, but do they let people advertise their business like that? I thought this was comercial free!
        • Re: info- esp for women

          Sun, July 27, 2008 - 2:17 PM
          psychedelics always make me horny . .
          • Re: info- esp for women

            Sun, July 27, 2008 - 2:41 PM
            Sounds like they make you elequent and classy as well.
            • Re: info- esp for women

              Sun, July 27, 2008 - 3:03 PM
              it's true though init...

              when I buy shrooms online I'm always kinda envious when I read all those trip reports from rave kids about what a great party they had with their GF's and stuff...
              • Re: info- esp for women

                Sun, July 27, 2008 - 3:18 PM
                good for them and sorry you're feeling a bit frustrated:)
                anyways, getting back to topic, I suggest posting about getting horny on psychedelics on another thread. Might lead to more feedback.
                • Re: info- esp for women

                  Sun, July 27, 2008 - 3:33 PM
                  but I thought that was what you wanted this thread to be about... ;)

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                    re

                    Sun, July 27, 2008 - 3:51 PM

                    I guess hornieness and sexual predatory behavior are one and the same to you if thats whatchya thought the thread was about ;)
                    • Re: re

                      Sun, July 27, 2008 - 4:08 PM
                      well horniness is about having like arousal/desires of a sexual nature I guess...

                      and then I guess the predatory behaviour is about actively connecting that arousal into some interpersonal connection somehow...

                      and then like if the horniness getting acted out is somehow connected to psychedellics then like I guess this thread is shooting kinda straight... hahaha

                      but what do I know...

                      I never could really find my way into that sex and drugs lifestyle much... :(

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