I don't know for SURE if Mr. Carlin was a psychonaut himself, but I damn well wouldn't be surprised if he was. I cannot tell you how many times I have played his voice in the blacklight glow of my apartment while by myself or with others, enjoying various letters of the alphabet
D to the X to the M
L to the S to the D
and many other combinations!
This man was not only hilarious, but he was brilliant, insightful, and brave. Not necessarily the handsomest guy on the planet, but his mind made him sexy beyond belief to me and I regret that he died without me ever getting to kiss him--not that he will ever know or care about that, but it's damn true for me!
Sometimes things are inexpressible so you kind of have to halfway express the feelings you are having, so it does not exactly do him justice, but I think of him with a certain amount of reverance and awe. Indeed while it would have been great to kiss him, it would have been a great and fulfilling honor to shake his hand, look in his eyes and say thank you.
Gilmore would say
shine on you crazy diamond.
Love that man!
D to the X to the M
L to the S to the D
and many other combinations!
This man was not only hilarious, but he was brilliant, insightful, and brave. Not necessarily the handsomest guy on the planet, but his mind made him sexy beyond belief to me and I regret that he died without me ever getting to kiss him--not that he will ever know or care about that, but it's damn true for me!
Sometimes things are inexpressible so you kind of have to halfway express the feelings you are having, so it does not exactly do him justice, but I think of him with a certain amount of reverance and awe. Indeed while it would have been great to kiss him, it would have been a great and fulfilling honor to shake his hand, look in his eyes and say thank you.
Gilmore would say
shine on you crazy diamond.
Love that man!
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Re: In Honor of Mr. Carlin
Tue, June 24, 2008 - 7:35 PMBack when I was a journalist, I interviewed Carlin a few times. Always fun. However, when I was working for High Times he wouldn't talk to me. Those were questions he didn't want to be asked, I guess. Don't blame him, really. He did hang out with some well-known psychonauts, tho. -
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Re: In Honor of Mr. Carlin
Tue, June 24, 2008 - 8:14 PMoh yeah? like who....? it sucks sometimes being a psychonaut is like being gay in the 1950s you can never talk about it or you have disgraced yourself. so even if everyone suspects, you can never tell because then all they have is suspicions, nothing confirmed. as kristie bott says, never admit to anything, deny everything and as long as people only suspect and they have no absolute proof, then you're cool -
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Re: In Honor of Mr. Carlin
Tue, June 24, 2008 - 8:41 PM
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Tue, June 24, 2008 - 8:56 PMThe one psychonaut buddy of Carlin's I can say, because he's also deceased, is Robert Anton Wilson. -
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Re: In Honor of Mr. Carlin
Tue, June 24, 2008 - 9:18 PMI dont know alot about George but I could totally see them being friends and think that's cool as hell. They're probably hanging out together smoking a big doobie right now. : )
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Re: In Honor of Mr. Carlin
Wed, June 25, 2008 - 9:26 PMoooh, very cool to know. ! sweet.
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Re: In Honor of Mr. Carlin
Tue, June 24, 2008 - 9:42 PMFresh Air recently re-aired an interview he had with Terry Gross a few years back. During the interview, George recounted the incident in the 70s when he was arrested for "indecency" for doing his act in an open-air festival (where the sound traveled into local community). Anyway, he mentioned that his wife had warned him that the cops were there and might potentially arrest him, at which point he gave away all of the "illegal paraphernalia" that he had on him, so he could only be charged with the public indecency charge and not the possession charges that he knows they would have "loved to bust him for."
One can only imagine the extent of that paraphernalia, but I would imagine that a inquisitive and intelligent guy like Carlin would not balk at a substance's illegality as a reason for limiting exploration. -
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Re: In Honor of Mr. Carlin
Tue, June 24, 2008 - 10:08 PMFrom George Carlin's final (?) interview on Friday, June 13th, 2008, published in Psychology Today magazine (blogs.psychologytoday.com/blog/...erview ):
Q: I want to talk about the transformation that you did in the 60s when you went from what you once termed the “middle-American comic” to this different persona—it was much more subversive. How did that happen and why did that happen?
A: I was always swimming against the tide. I was always out of step. Not only did I quit school, but I got kicked out of three schools along the way. I eventually got asked to leave the air force a year early—it wasn’t dishonorable, but it was a general discharge, which is a step down—because I did not shape up, I didn’t like authority, I had three court-martials. I was kicked off the alter boys, I was kicked off the choirboys, I was kicked out of the boy scouts, I was kicked out of summer camp. I never fit and I didn’t like conforming. And sometimes it just broke through the membrane, and I was out.
By the end of the 60s, all of my friends, the musician friends of mine, had gone through a transition in their dress, and especially in their music, and what I noticed was that all of these great artists—Bob Dylan, Buffalo Springfield, Joan Baez—all of these people were using their art to express themselves politically and socially. And I was not. I was still doing people-pleasing.
I was 30, and I resonated much more truly with the 20-year-olds. I was more in line with them than I was with these people I was entertaining in nightclubs. I began to notice that. I began to be affected by it, and along the way, the judicious use of some mescaline and some LSD managed to accelerate the process. It gave me more of an insight into how false the world was I was settling for, and to see that there was something much richer and better and more authentic. And those changes happened, they just—they happened naturally and organically. It took about 2 years for the total changeover to occur.
My beard got a little longer, the hair got a little longer, the clothing changed, and then I suddenly found myself being as—the best combination of both, this person I really was who was kind of out of step, antiauthoritarian, who also had these skills and talents that he was honing to express himself. And so I started expressing those feelings.
Q: In what way did the mescaline and LSD give you the insight and the confidence to make this transformation? What role did the drugs play?
A: Well, It was just passive, I don’t know. See, I had always been a marijuana smoker, a pretty heavy user of marijuana, all these years I’m talking about when I was in this other world of mainstream television, nightclubs. So marijuana is a hallucinogen and it is also a value-changing drug, as are acid and mescaline. They are hallucinogens and they are value-changing drugs. They alter, assist in shifting one’s perspective on the world which usually is informed by your values. And so I had already, my body, my mind, and myself—I already had a kind of a thick layer of this out-of-stepness.
And so I was already across that street. And I just hadn’t, you know, bought a house on that side yet. So, the LSD was a much stronger experience, and the mescaline, and I don’t know what they did or how they did it, I just know that going through that gave me the confidence in these changes I was feeling, in this direction, this metamorphosis, I was in the middle of. I gained confidence in it and I took strength from it, feeling that I was right that I was really on the right path, that I was being true to myself. And that was what counted to me, to be true to myself—my mother had always said that. To thine—Shakespeare—“To thine own self be true.” She loved quoting the classics, and she quoted Emerson or Shakespeare or whoever it was she thought was appropriate for her lesson. And to thine own self be true. And I just—I just had to be who I felt like I was, not who I had led them to believe I was. -
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Re: In Honor of Mr. Carlin
Wed, June 25, 2008 - 9:26 PMAww, Dan, thanks for posting that, I really like that, that's really cool, and I can see so much of my own experiences in his words, as probably many of you can too. Very nice!
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Re: In Honor of Mr. Carlin
Tue, July 8, 2008 - 6:32 PMA truly gifted and funny man. They say laughter is the best medicine, if that's the case then Carlin one hell of a healer. =)
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