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Go Ask Alice

topic posted Tue, June 10, 2008 - 9:22 PM by  offlineSky Tricks
Sometimes I think that sex is like psychedelic drugs, it makes a person enter a state that is very unlike their usual, conventional life. Neural rewiring occurs, must occur, in order for the experience to be successful. They are both like mysterious rabbit holes, and you can’t just creep up to them and peer in and think with your conventional brain, “Hmm, that’s interesting,” you have to actually become Alice, crawl in, expecting nothing and everything, and then when the ground gives way, you have to just fall and undo all of the straps that usually hold you in and make you do a supposedly good job of functioning in society. This is not always an easy thing, as these straps represent security, surety, causality, this then that, predictability, consistency. But they don’t work in the rabbit holes; in those cases, they become restraints that only serve to keep you from where you want to go.
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  • marklar
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    Re: Go Ask Alice

    Wed, June 11, 2008 - 12:52 AM
    It's really true. In our socialized day-to-day we learn early on to veer from vulnerability, to guard against it; we learn to at least pretend to have the thick shell, the seamless defenses.

    But somewhere we become hungry for just this very vulnerability, the space which becomes essential for either successful sex or tripping. Because it is who we are, this soft underbelly unlocked by our willingness to stand up with weak knees and racing heart. You can't really trip without trusting, just as you can't fully let go and let a genuine orgasm rip through your being: you have to trust that softness, trust the fierceness and the potential complete disintegration that sex could bring, that surrendering your cognitive self to a chemical compound might very well mean.

    Once again, Sky Tricks: good one.
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    • Sky ...
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      Re: Go Ask Alice

      Wed, June 11, 2008 - 8:00 AM
      thanks! Yeah, that was really well expressed, especially the line about our willingness to stand up with weak knees and a racing heart. So true! And then you feel so damn proud, electrical buzzing, and alive when you do this. Maybe the humming is our DNA cheering. ???
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  • Ryan
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    Re: Go Ask Alice

    Wed, June 11, 2008 - 8:17 AM
    IMO a big difference between sex and psychedelics is that while both can dissolve ego boundaries, it is possible to keep them intact in sex. This leads to less satisfying sex (and IMO is at the root of several types of sexual dysfunction and fetishes) but most folks are happy with that level of sexual experience. In fact, ego-dissolving sex can actually be a little scary and can cause folks with intimacy issues to feel the need to quickly exit a relationship.

    Psychedelics on the other hand, often leave one little choice. The ego-boundaries get shattered whether or not one tries to keep them intact. This can be both a wonderful and a terrible thing (sometimes both at once).
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    • Mr. M
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      Re: Go Ask Alice

      Wed, June 11, 2008 - 6:59 PM
      "Psychedelics on the other hand, often leave one little choice. The ego-boundaries get shattered whether or not one tries to keep them intact. This can be both a wonderful and a terrible thing (sometimes both at once). "

      I knew this Ryan but I love being reminded. Very cool words I needed. I've been contemplating another "trip" myself. Just a little trip though. A mini vacation. I don't even want to pack a bag. I can be so apprehensive when approaching launch time. The anticipation of the countdown is always a little scarey to me. It's just something that keeps drawing me back. I feel the same way about weed now too. It's like every time I do something I feel negative and positive before during and after. Almost every time I tell myself "Never again." lol But the Piper calls. And I walk down that path occasionally because there is something there that continues to fascinate me.

      And while I do think sexual ecstasy can be incredible, for me the pschedelic experience is WAY different and much more profound than any sexual experience. Even the most incredible sexual experience. To me there is a big difference. Some similarities maybe but not ultimately.
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